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How Financial Institutions Can Tackle Three Critical Innovation Roadblocks

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March 23, 2022

On this episode of Expert Insights, industry trailblazer James Robert Lay sits down with our host Joe Welu for an exciting conversation on the barriers to innovation in finance. James Robert is the founder and CEO of the Digital Growth Institute. He has guided more than 560 financial brands on a mission to simplify digital marketing and sales strategies that empower banks and credit unions to generate 10 times more loans and deposits.

In this week’s show, we tackle innovation in financial services and why the topic is more relevant than ever. Let’s break down some of James Robert’s insights.

What’s Preventing Financial Institutions from Innovating?

James Robert identifies three negative patterns he continues to see financial institutions fall into and hold them back from truly innovating:  

  1. There’s no clear focus. Innovative decisions are being made blind, and key decision-makers aren’t using data to inform their strategies and help them make confident decisions. As a result, they end up “dabbling” in innovation here and there, but it doesn’t result in long-term change.
  1. There’s no cultural support or buy-in. The fear of failure is very real for financial services leaders. Big change – that may require time, money, and resource commitments – can be uncomfortable. But this fear of change can leave organizations in the “cave of complacency” – which, according to James Robert, is a very dangerous place. Instead, James Robert encourages leaders to lean into change and get used to feeling comfortable with being uncomfortable.
  1. There’s a perception that there isn’t enough time. When a financial institution is unable to actually commit to innovation, they typically end up doing what they’ve already been doing time after time. In the end, no growth is achieved.

So is it innovate or die for most financial brands? From James Robert’s perspective, it’s more of a slow death. If you’re not innovating, you’re not transforming. And if you’re not transforming, you’re not growing. If your business isn’t growing, it might be time to reevaluate what you’re doing.

Innovation is Rooted in Data

For many financial organizations, the lack of innovation stems from their inability to act on data. They’re unable to take all of the information about a customer, understand that person, and then change how they serve that customer. It’s a multiple-step process – turning data into analytics so that it can become actionable insights – but it’s imperative to innovation.

Financial brands are in a unique position when it comes to data because they have a tremendous amount of valuable information at their fingertips. It truly is a transformative opportunity because banking institutions know much about the lives, habits, and behaviors of their individual account holders. When data is handled correctly, it can be leveraged to make recommendations and to help customers get from where they’re at to an even better, brighter financial future.

Data can feel overwhelming. But with the right tools and a dedicated focus, it will create the greatest value going forward.

Macro vs. Micro

According to James Robert, financial institutions must begin to move from the macro to the micro. The one-to-one connection (micro) people crave is going to take priority over the macro. People today are longing for personal connection and many organizations are realizing the potential of a human-first strategy.

Embedding touchpoints – real and meaningful, human connections – along the customer journey can make a tremendous difference in the relationship that financial brands have with people. It can be as simple as making a phone call, sending a text, or giving advice. James Robert’s advice? Look at the individual customer and prioritize the transformation of that person over the commoditized transaction.

Where Can Financial Institutions Begin?

When it comes to tackling innovation, start small and don’t try to boil the ocean – progress is greater than perfection, James Robert recommends.

One potential starting point is to identify a process that can be easily automated. Consider this scenario: With every person that abandons an application, send them an automated email. Now add the human element into this by also adding outbound calls. These small, additional touch points added strategically throughout the customer journey can lead to significant value over time.

After incorporating a new process, James Robert reiterates the importance of asking questions to review the progress. What have you done? What worked well? What could be even better? From there, tweak the process to make it more effective, then rinse, and repeat.

For more of James Robert’s insights, listen to the full Expert Insights episode.

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Borrower experience is also improving. “One of the pleasant surprises… is the quality of the experience to the end consumer,” he said. Whether or not lenders disclose that a caller is AI, “the quality of the interaction is so high, they continue down the path.” The AI agent maintains “the right tone… the ability to match… the tempo of the conversation” while instantly tapping into contextual customer data.

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Best Practices for Executive Teams Deploying AI in Financial Services

The AI revolution feels like humanity just discovered fire—and everyone is racing to see what they can ignite.

That means a rush of AI pilots and proofs-of-concept across all industries, many of which launched without evaluating each use case against actual business value.

As I meet with CEOs and executive teams from leading mortgage lenders and financial institutions, the conversation has shifted from “What can AI do?” to “How do we deploy AI responsibly, at speed, and with measurable impact?”

The market leaders I work with are outpacing competitors by following a remarkably consistent playbook. They’re not just testing AI, they’re embedding it across their organizations with purpose, speed, and discipline.

Below, I’ve distilled the best practices I’ve observed from the institutions getting the most from AI today.

Anchor AI strategy to business outcomes

Tie every AI initiative to a clear business priority—whether it’s loan growth, customer retention, or operational efficiency.

Define KPIs, ROI targets, and adoption metrics before a project begins. No project should exist without a measurable path to value.

Start with high-impact, low-friction wins

Focus first on areas where a proof of concept or pilot is feasible within 30-60 days. Conversational and Voice AI solutions provide many options for pilot use cases. Other common use cases involve document classification, predictive churn modeling, or intelligent lead scoring. These early wins build momentum, prove ROI, and prepare teams for more complex deployments.

Invest in data quality and governance early

AI is only as good as the data feeding it.

Start by creating a single source of truth for customer and loan data. Then, anticipate obstacles to deploying AI with your data, such as consumer consent and preference management, and start addressing these things ASAP. Investing in tools like Customer Intelligence will help enrich your data and increase its value.  

Embed compliance and risk management from day one

Regulations such the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), TCPA (Telephone Consumer Protection Act), and UDAP (Unfair, Deceptive, or Abusive Acts or Practices) will be a few key areas where regulators dig in and look for companies cutting corners.

Create a cross-functional AI task force

Bring together leaders from product, compliance, data science, operations, and customer experience. Avoid siloed pilots—alignment ensures every initiative supports the broader business strategy. Include change management expertise to drive adoption, not just deployment.

Prioritize customer experience and trust

Every organization has gaps in their customer journey and can benefit from leveraging AI to provide human-like touch points throughout the experience. Use AI to remove friction, improve transparency, and deliver personalization at scale. Keep humans informed about high-stakes decisions and be transparent with customers about how AI is used and how their data is protected.

Build for integration, not isolation

Select AI solutions that integrate seamlessly with your CRM, LOS, core banking systems, and data lakes. Use APIs and modular architectures to avoid “AI silos” that slow scale and ROI.

Focus on talent and change management

Embracing AI with a growth mindset should be table stakes. Incentivize adoption so teams see AI as an enabler—not a threat to their roles. Upskill executives and frontline teams in AI literacy. When needed, recruit or partner for deep ML and data science expertise.

Measure, monitor, and iterate

AI is not a one-and-done project—it’s a living product. Track performance, user adoption, and ROI continuously, and refine models quarterly to maintain accuracy and relevance.

Choose the right tech partners: favor vertical specialists

Partner with vendors who understand financial services—especially your unique customer journeys or workflows. Deep domain understanding on core systems, database schemas, compliance, and other nuances will be a key factor in the results you achieve.

Benefits of vertical-focused partners:

  • Deep understand of unique data sets and customer profiles
  • Faster implementation with industry-specific models
  • Built-in regulatory and risk controls
  • Product roadmaps aligned to lending and banking trends

Horizontal AI tools have their place, but without deep domain expertise, they often require heavy internal customization and a slower time to value.

The future is here

AI today is not the same as the project in 2018 that failed to deliver those operational efficiencies in the back office everyone was promised. Its potential to transform nearly every part of our businesses is becoming increasingly clear. Every day you delay, competitors are building up their capabilities and you will struggle to catch up. As one of my investors put it bluntly, “Every day you fail to execute a comprehensive AI strategy, the value of your business goes down.”  

To learn more about how Total Expert is working with our customers on high-impact AI initiatives, please reach out to our team.  

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